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Do you think you could Manage the Bunnymen Better

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Postby kook » Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:42 pm

withahip wrote:

Otherwise, just go your separate ways - Ian can do his WAYGTDWYL stuff and Will Glide stuff and it is still win-win.


Not really. However paltry the income from what they're doing now, going it alone would bring in less dosh.
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Postby withahip » Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:57 pm

kook wrote:Not really. However paltry the income from what they're doing now, going it alone would bring in less dosh.


I meant a win-win for me. This is always about me or whomever is saying what they want.

Of course the best thing for them is the oldies circuit. Like when my folks would go see the old Motown acts in the late 70s and early 80s.

New Wave Chitlin' Circuit.
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Postby kook » Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:58 pm

withahip wrote:I meant a win-win for me. This is always about me or whomever is saying what they want. .


oh.
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Postby zabird » Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:00 pm

withahip wrote:New Wave Chitlin' Circuit.


:lol: :lol: :lol:


That said, I hope they don't ever do that! And judging by that frosty message from mgmt about such a career capper a while back, ain't gonna happen anytime soon. I hope not. The Furs have done that and it somehow cheapens the night. Plus you have to share the venue with annoying Alarm, Fixx and ABC fans :eek: Better they go it alone, but perhaps better gauge venue size so they can make a few bucks, so Sarge doesn't have to stock shelves at Safeway. And since it's all about me, don't wait another three years to play L.A., guys! How 'bout Coachella 2010?
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Postby black francis » Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:32 pm

Another show I wouldn't attend!
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Postby black francis » Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:35 pm

zabird wrote::lol: :lol: :lol:


That said, I hope they don't ever do that! And judging by that frosty message from mgmt about such a career capper a while back, ain't gonna happen anytime soon. I hope not. The Furs have done that and it somehow cheapens the night. Plus you have to share the venue with annoying Alarm, Fixx and ABC fans :eek: Better they go it alone, but perhaps better gauge venue size so they can make a few bucks, so Sarge doesn't have to stock shelves at Safeway. And since it's all about me, don't wait another three years to play L.A., guys! How 'bout Coachella 2010?


I will however purchase all new releases for no other reason than to make sure Will doesn't stock shelves till he snuffs it.
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Postby withahip » Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:40 pm

If Will got a good blog going with a paypal at the bottom I'd throw him a tenner once a year.
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Postby zabird » Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:35 pm

withahip wrote:If Will got a good blog going with a paypal at the bottom I'd throw him a tenner once a year.


I thought he had a website going with some of his photos on it.
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Postby crystal daze » Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:30 am

He gave it up 'cos life took over, and the spuds needed planted or picked or something like that.
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Postby fat cherry » Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:25 am

theres his fotolog still up. not posted for a while though. i started one of those once and got bored. i tried planting potatoes too, and got bored with that too, they take ages to grow. gues i've just not got the attention span to be a rock god or a farmer.

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Postby fat cherry » Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:30 am

though i think most of the piccies from the ocean rain dvd are his,so maybe one of the management had a word, what with their business acumen and all that and said, here will, why give em away, stick em on a special edition dvd and we could get 30 quid a pop, and he thought for a while and said, can that bloke who does the webs ite give me a hand, i've got some squashes to plant this weekend, and he said, no problem - and he's cheap, so dont worry about your profit margins. and then he said, what abut that bloke who sings, he said, no worries, he wont even know about it. Do you think when he's up on the allotment he says to the other blokes (and saucy young housewives - i hear they are the biggest growing group of allotment owners), here, i used to be in a pop group once. and they roll their eyes and give each other that 'here hje goes again' look.
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Postby fat cherry » Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:34 am

withahip wrote:Without Pete, Drummond and Les? No chance. The drumming alone is intergral to the sound writing.


what about hypnosis then. lock em in a room with derren brown and say youre not coming out until you've wriiten a top ten single or killed that smarmy bastard. Its evens on which two would come out i suppose. speaking of top ten singles did anyone ever take pete the webdad up on that bet?
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Postby Dr Cheese » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:57 am

fat cherry wrote:and then he said, what abut that bloke who sings,

The thought of Will thinking of Mac as "that bloke who sings" made me LOL.
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Postby Mr.Sparkle » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:52 am

zabird wrote:amen, ghostie. I'd go for a return of that raw Croc sound and Mac's frantic guitar playing. Was listening to that album in my car last night. Still good stuff. However, that was a four-way partnership + Bill Drummond, not two guys and a bunch of hired guns. Could they still pull it off today? I'd give it a listen if they tried.

As to the kids, never discount what they might pick up on. Went to my first Buzzcocks show in years a few years ago and was stunned to see all the teens and tweens there. All it took was the Buzzers playing the Warped tour, I guess, to widen their fan base. Tho I don't advocate that for the Bunnymen ... there's no way I'd go stand in a hot parking lot somewhere to see them do a 30-minute set!


I think we're kidding ourselves if we think the Bunnymen of today will ever make another album like Crocodiles. I think it's also a little unfair to expect that at this stage in their careers. But just because they are in their 50's that's no excuse for the lyrics in Do You Know Who I Am or songs like Proxy and What If We Are appearing on a Bunnymen album.

I just want to see them try some new and creative things in their songs, something that they've consistently not done for the most part recently, but it's something they did over their first 4 albums in 5 years. It's just been bland and boring mid-tempo stuff mostly.

If they want to expand their audience The Fountain is pretty much the opposite of what they should be doing, IMO. The sales of it show that. I find it very hard to picture someone under the age of 30 walking into a record store or going online and buying that album. Just not going to happen.
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Postby the ghost of guitarplayer » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:06 am

Mr.Sparkle wrote:I think we're kidding ourselves if we think the Bunnymen of today will ever make another album like Crocodiles. I think it's also a little unfair to expect that at this stage in their careers.


I'm not suggesting a carbon copy of Crocodiles, complete with early 80s-style songs. I don't think anybody expects that, although many of those songs are as basic composition wise as you'd get from any band. Probably what makes it such a great album.

What I was suggesting was just taking the sound where the songs are stripped down, getting rid of stuff like keyboards, putting in more rythmn guitar, bass and adding live-sounding percussion. I mean, after all, they appear to be more of a live than a recordings band nowadays. Producing a collection of 11 uptempo rock songs that have more of a live sound to might be a lot easier to record. Either that or it's the Glide route. I can't really see what else they can do.
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