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Siberia 4th anniversary

Postby Mr. Brian » Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:25 am

Today is the 4th anniversary of the release of Siberia.

It seems like only yesterday that I was filled with disappointment and wondering who the new vocalist was.
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Postby the ghost of guitarplayer » Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:35 am

You were disappointed? I thought some of it was a step in the right direction. Seems a long time ago now...
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Re: Siberia 4th anniversary

Postby tonywojo » Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:11 pm

Mr. Brian wrote:Today is the 4th anniversary of the release of Siberia.

It seems like only yesterday that I was filled with disappointment and wondering who the new vocalist was.


i guess we dont read history chimes mr b.
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Re: Siberia 4th anniversary

Postby Mr. Brian » Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:54 pm

tonywojo wrote:i guess we dont read history chimes mr b.


That's ok I don't either usually but you should because you never know when that stuff will come in handy to dazzle those around you.
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Postby dancing_horse » Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:41 pm

geeze. i think it's a brilliant album
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Postby black francis » Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:55 pm

one song is classic (All Because of You Days)
about five or six songs are half classics (In the Margins, Of a Life, Scissors in the Sand) okay make that three songs are half classics.
the rest are turds (Parthenon Drive being the absolute most boring song the Bunnymen ever wrote. Even worse than Fuel)
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Postby the ghost of guitarplayer » Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:28 pm

I think All Because of You Days is a bit of a turd. Apart from the guitar and the chorus, it sounds like Coldplay. Not as turdish like mind you as What If We Are? The Turd of all Turds.

In the Margins, Of a Life, Scissors in the Sand, Siberia and Sideways Eight were the songs that I liked on that album.
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Postby Dr Cheese » Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:36 am

the ghost of guitarplayer wrote:

In the Margins, Of a Life, Scissors in the Sand, Siberia and Sideways Eight were the songs that I liked on that album.

Same here, What If We Are is simply too embarassing to listen to.
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Postby kook » Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:56 am

Dr Cheese wrote:Same here, What If We Are is simply too embarassing to listen to.


I think I listened to that one and a half times. Awful!
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Postby black francis » Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:14 pm

At the 4:00 minute or so mark All Because of You Days goes awesome.
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Postby Dr Evil » Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:18 am

Unlike the truly great "In The Margins" and "Of a life" the actual singing and music on "What if we are?" are not that hot, but the lyrics appeal to my middle aged angst and self-doubt.
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Postby Mr. Brian » Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:35 am

I agree that there are several good songs on Siberia.

Like Flowers, once the newness of it wore off it just seems to me that it is mostly filler and there wasn't much attention to detail which doesn't really make it "brilliant" or anything close in my opinion.
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Postby black francis » Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:14 am

Dr Evil wrote:Unlike the truly great "In The Margins" and "Of a life" the actual singing and music on "What if we are?" are not that hot, but the lyrics appeal to my middle aged angst and self-doubt.


As much as I hate "What if We Are" the end really gets me. Sounds like Mac really was going through some self doubt at the time and is really singing honestly.

Hey have I hit rock bottom?
Have I hit rock bottom?
Tell me hey how to hit rock bottom?
how to hit rock bottom?
Tell me hey how to hit rock bottom?
how to hit rock bottom?
Hey have we hit rock bottom?
Have we hit rock bottom?
Tell me hey how to hit rock bottom?
how to hit rock bottom?
Tell me hey how to hit rock bottom?
how to hit rock bottom?

Tell me hey
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Postby black francis » Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:16 am

Along with the end of All Because of You Days it shows simple lyrics can be as meaningful as something more obscure. Simple doesn't have to be simplistic.
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Postby In The Margins » Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:49 pm

black francis wrote:As much as I hate "What if We Are" the end really gets me. Sounds like Mac really was going through some self doubt at the time and is really singing honestly.

Hey have I hit rock bottom?
Have I hit rock bottom?
Tell me hey how to hit rock bottom?
how to hit rock bottom?
Tell me hey how to hit rock bottom?
how to hit rock bottom?
Hey have we hit rock bottom?
Have we hit rock bottom?
Tell me hey how to hit rock bottom?
how to hit rock bottom?
Tell me hey how to hit rock bottom?
how to hit rock bottom?

Tell me hey


From interviews when the album was released both Will and Ian, independently, said that those lyrics in particular were meant to be more ironic or sarcastic than sincere. (This is paraphrasing. They had a much better way of saying it. I can't remember the exact wording right now.)

I took the lyrics to be a dig at Lorraine.
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