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Bill Drummond: the five lessons . . .

Postby Kounelaki » Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:41 pm

Bill Drummond: the five lessons I learned from Ken Campbell
http://www.theguardian.com/stage/2014/n ... n-campbell

Lesson five

Four years later, still in Liverpool, I am co-managing two of the hippest bands in the land: Echo and the Bunnymen and the Teardrop Explodes. Echo & the Bunnymen were going from strength to strength. They were a solid four-piece democratic band. The Teardrop Explodes were more difficult. They had just had a top 10 single, Reward, and their first album had gone gold. But the band was riven with internal problems, changing line-ups, conflicting egos and too much dope.

Ken was back in Liverpool. He had got a proper job as the artistic director of the Everyman. The co-manager of these bands, and my best friend, was Dave Balfe. He was also the keyboard-player with the Teardrop Explodes, and that was one of the problems. I had told Dave about Ken and how he was the only proper genius I had ever worked with. I knew Ken had no interest in music but I suggested we should visit him and ask what to do with the Teardrop Explodes.

So that night, we go to Ken’s lodgings and knock on his door. On seeing my face, the first thing he says is: “Drummond, have you got the Araldite?”

Introductions over, Dave and I explained the problem. He said it was simple enough to sort out. I asked how and he said: “Give me £100 and I will tell you.”

So Dave and I went back out into the night to get £100. There were no cash machines in those days. There was only one person we knew in Liverpool who would have that sort of money in cash at that time of night. Obviously, he thought we were there to buy his wares. We said no, we just want to borrow £100. The interest was agreed and he loaned us the money.

Back at Ken’s lodgings, we counted out the notes. Ken put them in his back pocket. He looked up at us and gave us his broad grin.

“WILDER!”

“What do you mean, Ken?”

“I mean WILDER! That is what you need your band to be. WILDER!”

“Have we just paid you £100 for the word ‘wilder’?”

“Yes. And it is probably the best £100 you are ever likely to spend.”

When we left, Dave was certain Ken was just taking the piss out of us. He may have been. But that did not stop us from convincing the Teardrop Explodes and their record company to call their next – and final – album Wilder. Although it went gold, it did not solve the problem within the band. I walked away. And the band broke up. But with everything I have worked on since, I can hear Ken’s voice telling me: “Wilder, Bill, it should be wilder.”
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Re: Bill Drummond: the five lessons . . .

Postby Voodoo Billy » Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:20 pm

They might have stuck together if he'd had the Araldite.
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Re: Bill Drummond: the five lessons . . .

Postby Dr Cheese » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:26 am

Voodoo Billy wrote:They might have stuck together if he'd had the Araldite.

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Re: Bill Drummond: the five lessons . . .

Postby Kounelaki » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:06 am

:lol: :lol:
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Re: Bill Drummond: the five lessons . . .

Postby fat cherry » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:37 pm

does drummond only do things by numbers? - reminds me of porridge and fletcher saying something about Mr McKay making love to his wife by numbers.
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Re: Bill Drummond: the five lessons . . .

Postby Mr. Brian » Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:19 am

I tried to get a Drummond interview after doing the Noel Burke interview in 2008. I tracked his e-mail down and he was kind enough to respond but said that he'd really said all there is to be said about his time with the Bunnymen.

I went back and found his reply...

Dear Brian,

Thanks for your email and invitation. I have enjoyed looking at the site and have just read the Noel Burke interview where I think he comes over very well and am pleased he has such a positive take on it all.

As for me, I think I said everything that I have wanted to say in my story From The Shores Of Lake Placed published in 45. I do not have a problem with you publishing all of that on your site. That said I do not have it on my hard drive, you would have to take it direct from the book.

Yours,

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Re: Bill Drummond: the five lessons . . .

Postby Dr Cheese » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:40 am

I always loved The KLF but some of the JAMs stuff is unlistenable imo.
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Re: Bill Drummond: the five lessons . . .

Postby Voodoo Billy » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:07 pm

Dr Cheese wrote:I always loved The KLF but some of the JAMs stuff is unlistenable imo.


Me too, loved 'It's Grim Up North' though.
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Re: Bill Drummond: the five lessons . . .

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Re: Bill Drummond: the five lessons . . .

Postby YoYoMan » Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:05 am

The Teardrop Explodes is one of the bands I bought years ago, having never heard any of their stuff, strictly due to their association with the Bunnymen - only to find out they sounded nothing like the Bunnymen IMO. Strongly disliked all of it except one awesome song I'm just now re-discovering - "Sleeping Gas". That's one more song that I liked than the other bands I bought - couldn't stand Wah! or Icicle Works. Also bought The Mighty Lemon Drops that way. One song was OK. Did not care for the rest. I did check out Simple Minds a little b/f buying them - did not care for them either. Key takeaway was the Bunnymen are pretty unique and don't trust music critics' lazy comparisons.
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