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Postby the ghost of guitarplayer » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:20 pm

JackT wrote:So summing up, what exactly is your point?


Pretty obvious and perhaps you could e-mail Naoto Kan and ask him what his point was as well. Japan has just suffered from the worst disaster since the events in Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Tokyo at the end of WW2 - ignore the causes - in terms of devastation to parts of the country, the potential economic costs and loss to Japanese life. The costs of clearing the mess up will be enormous and may surpass the $100 billion in damage and cleaning up from the Hanshin quake. And how many dead? It has been reported today that 2,000 bodies have been washed up already.

If it was just a natural disaster I was talking about then I would of said it was worst natural disaster compared to the Hanshin quake or since the 1923 Great Kanto quake.
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Postby In The Margins » Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:53 pm

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookou ... the-planet

Japan’s earthquake shifted balance of the planet

By Liz Goodwin
Mon Mar 14, 9:56 am ET

Last week's devastating earthquake and tsunami in Japan has actually moved the island closer to the United States and shifted the planet's axis.

The quake caused a rift 15 miles below the sea floor that stretched 186 miles long and 93 miles wide, according to the AP. The areas closest to the epicenter of the quake jumped a full 13 feet closer to the United States, geophysicist Ross Stein at the United States Geological Survey told The New York Times.

The world's fifth-largest, 8.9 magnitude quake was caused when the Pacific tectonic plate dove under the North American plate, which shifted Eastern Japan towards North America by about 13 feet (see NASA's before and after photos at right). The quake also shifted the earth's axis by 6.5 inches, shortened the day by 1.6 microseconds, and sank Japan downward by about two feet. As Japan's eastern coastline sunk, the tsunami's waves rolled in.

Why did the quake shorten the day? The earth's mass shifted towards the center, spurring the planet to spin a bit faster. Last year's massive 8.8 magnitude earthquake in Chile also shortened the day, but by an even smaller fraction of a second. The 2004 Sumatra quake knocked a whopping 6.8 micro-seconds off the day.

After the country's 1995 earthquake, Japan placed high-tech sensors around the country to observe even the slightest movements, which is why scientists are able to calculate the quake's impact down to the inch. "This is overwhelmingly the best-recorded great earthquake ever," Lucy Jones, chief scientist for the Multi-Hazards project at the U.S. Geological Survey, told The Los Angeles Times.

The tsunami's waves necessitated life-saving evacuations as far away as Chile. Fisherman off the coast of Mexico reported a banner fishing day Friday, and speculated that the tsunami knocked sealife in their direction.
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Postby Voodoo Billy » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:55 pm

In The Margins wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110314/ts_yblog_thelookout/japans-earthquake-shifted-balance-of-the-planet

Japan’s earthquake shifted balance of the planet

By Liz Goodwin
Mon Mar 14, 9:56 am ET

Last week's devastating earthquake and tsunami in Japan has actually moved the island closer to the United States


Just when those poor people thought things couldn't get any worse.
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Postby the ghost of guitarplayer » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:36 pm

Apparently there's been another explosion at the Fukushima nuclear plant and there have been reports of a serious radioactive leak, yet unconfirmed, just that it is near the legal limit. Gets even more worse.
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Postby withahip » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:59 pm

Bodies have begun washing up on the shore. Over 2,000 so far.
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Postby happy_loss » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:58 am

the ghost of guitarplayer wrote:Southern Japan, Nagoya so Happy_Loss should be fine.


Me and the family are alive and well, thanks for the concern. It is a bit hairy here though, and just felt another quake not five minutes ago. What's interesting is that CNN, Yahoo, BBC news is actually giving more accurate info than the local Japanese news.

The Tokai Region (which is where Nagoya is located), is due for a San Francisco size earthquake, and some feel the last one might trigger it. Might be just paranoia, but we are starting to stock up on essentials.

Again, thanks for thinking of me and the people who weren't so lucky.

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Postby girlwithnoname » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:10 am

I just read that the nuclear accident situation has gotten much worse. I hope everyone near the area stays indoors.

I have a coworkers who are from Japan, and thankfully, their families and friends have reported in as safe. What a scary time.
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Postby Dave Smith » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:17 am

Thoughts to everyone in Japan-fucking terrible.
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Postby the ghost of guitarplayer » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:09 pm

happy_loss wrote:Me and the family are alive and well, thanks for the concern. It is a bit hairy here though, and just felt another quake not five minutes ago. What's interesting is that CNN, Yahoo, BBC news is actually giving more accurate info than the local Japanese news.

The Tokai Region (which is where Nagoya is located), is due for a San Francisco size earthquake, and some feel the last one might trigger it. Might be just paranoia, but we are starting to stock up on essentials.

Again, thanks for thinking of me and the people who weren't so lucky.

- Shawn


Scary times. Us lot of over here in the UK don't really have a clue what is like to live with the constant threat of earthquakes. Only have to look at this to see the scale of tremors and aftershocks in Japan and the surrounding region.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/ ... ia_eqs.php

Heard that the radioactive levels have now lowered at the Fukushima nuclear power plant, while there has been an additional earthquake 6.1 on the richter scale in eastern Japan.
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Postby withahip » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:09 am

Email received:

Dear All,

It is Monday evening, March 14, 2011. I have been asked by several people to update what is going on here. I can only say what I know and have seen so far. I went to a 2 hour military town hall meeting this evening. There were 2 admirals and the base commander who spoke. Here are bits and pieces of what we know.

Our school is in a housing area in Zushi City, an adjacent community to Yokosuka. The electric power company in Japan is rationing power because of the problems with the Fukashina reactors. Apparently Japan has lost 25-30% power generating ability. As a result we are on rolling black outs in our school. This issue has not affected the main base, 5 miles away as they have there own generators. So school will be in session from 8;00 -2:30pm but there will only be power from 11:00 - 2:00.. Today was the first day that started. That means our life blood, computers, are on for a very short time. Tough to do many kinds of business without our beloved technology.

There have been a succession of aftershocks, some felt ,many too low level to know about, but they are keeping count..
I continue to have electricity, phone, and internet service at my apartment. We somehow do not seem to be part of the rolling black outs, yet.
There is 24 hour coverage by some Japanese TV stations about the disaster. This includes lots of explanation (pictures, charts, graphics) about exactly what they know to be happening in the reactors.

They are rationing gasoline both on base and off base.
There has been a run on food and bottled water both in the commissary and at off base grocery stores, which appear to be closing 2-3 hours earlier than usual.
The trains are running only part of the day on very reduced schedules.
Cell phone and land line phones are working intermittently.
There will be a period of 100 hundred days of mourning in Japan for those who were lost in the tsunami.
Communication has been an ENORMOUS issue with base authorities, lack of English translation for residents out in town, between and among various units and tenant organizations on the base. To tell you the truth the most information is coming off of Facebook, believe it or not! But not everyone is on Facebook. I didn't know until I came to work this morning that being on Facebook would be a job requirement. It's not, but that's how it is shaping up because all other forms of communication are flawed in some way, or appear to be.

The military is working 20 hour days to provide the support necessary to help with the rescue effort. All our ships are out of port except for the GW (George Washington) which is in the dock for maintenance. That's why the Ronald Reagan is providing support. There are helicopters and C-130's parked at Atsugi (our parking lot base for the fighter aircraft on the GW when in port) , waiting to provide relief. Japan is mobilizing 100,000 of their SDF (Self Defense Force) personnel plus their reserves, to help with rescue, relief, look for bodies, identify conditions in various areas.. The devastation is so great in many places that only walking teams or helicopters from the air can help in any way. No master plan has materialized yet for how to deal with everything. They are overwhelmed. However Japan has had a long time (hundreds of years) historical experience with tsunamis and the after affects it brings to the culture. They are aware of what is needed physically as well as psychologically. The hard part is how to accomplish what must be done.

An interesting piece, which you may not see on the news. Along the eastern coast of Japan, about 100 miles out, there is an enormous pile of floating debris, cars, houses, everything. It is 1 MILE wide and 60 MILES long! This is like a new island, which it's not. It's just refuse that the ocean dragged out to sea. Seems incredible to be that BIG!

The nuclear issue is of great concern to everyone. The Japanese tend to err on the side of caution and the 20 km radius that has been established is thought to be sufficient. We are located from 188-200 miles away from the Fukushina/Sendai area. We have some people who have pressed the panic button and are looking for airline tickets on line back to the U.S. The prices are astronomical. There aren't many flights at present and I guess it's a bit of price gouging.

If you want to help and everyone wants to help, the best way to do that at present is donate to the American Red Cross. They have the resources and methodology to deliver the best aid quickly until such time as more local efforts to help can be brought into the situation.

There is a great deal of information on all the major news websites. I would suggest that you look at the before and after pictures which are on msnbc.com and other photos on the bbc.com. Amazing contrast to get a sense of the destruction. Locally I see new video footage every day that shows extraordinary pictures.

Things are proceeding as well as can be expected under the circumstances. Do not worry. For the time being this is the new "normal". It may last awhile. We just hope that there is no other major quake in this country for the foreseeable future.

Thank you to everyone for your responses and notes of concern.
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