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Postby black francis » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:50 am

zabird wrote:I know the person who wrote that ... she was a huge Cure fan in her youth too, and said similar things when she blogged about them playing Coachella a few years ago.


I'm guessing Friday I'm In Love was her favorite. I saw The Cure at Coachella and it was awful. Not so much them but the whole event atmosphere.

Saw them a bit later at Curiosa and it was magic.
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Postby In The Margins » Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:43 am

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Postby withahip » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:33 pm

Wow. His voice is still f34%^^$%d.
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Postby In The Margins » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:50 pm

Agreed. It's flat with no range, and very nasal. Meh.

Unfortunately, I think this is the best his voice will ever be, not only for this tour but for the rest of his singing career. It's obvious he'll never get a vocal coach thinking he can do all the rehabbing of his voice on his own. Too bad. Truly. :sad:
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Postby Dr Cheese » Sun Apr 18, 2010 3:21 pm

Fucking hell, he sounds fucking awful and is that a ciggie he's holding? Oh, yes it is, he obviously just doesn't give a shit what he's done and is continuing to do to his voice.

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Postby In The Margins » Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:29 pm

http://beatcrave.com/2010-04-18/coachel ... es-covers/

“Thanks for coming to see us tonight… You’ll want to leave as soon as we’re finished playing, obviously, but do try and stay if you can, see some bands. MGMT is a good one… Pity poor Gary Numan, he couldn’t make it due to the volcanic ash… maybe he could’ve taken one of his ‘Cars.’”

And so began Echo and the Bunnymen’s stellar set on the Outdoor Theatre at Coachella on Friday night—with winks and jabs, easing the crowd before unleashing a torrent of dark, synth-hewn and apocalyptic post-punk upon their audience in the form of twisting atmospherics (“The Cutter”) and lovely dark-pop anthems (“Lips Like Sugar”).

Most surprising, however? Echo and the Bunnymen’s proclivity for covers. There was the traditional Doors cover (a rollicking “Roadhouse Blues”—though still not as good as the original), followed in short order by takes on Lou Reed’s “Walk on the Wild Side” and far more obscure “Coney Island Baby,” which then drifted into a lovely and elegiac cover of Wilson Pickett’s “In the Midnight Hour,” which, no matter how many times you’ve heard, will never sound quite the same after listening to it pass through the hands of an over-the-hill group of post-punkers from Liverpool.
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Postby morty » Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:41 pm

Oh dear - it all seems a bit sad.

There is no vibe from that crowd and you can't blame them as there is no vibe on stage.

It is totally depressing and a band just going through the motions.

There is no beauty or moments of inspired musical greatness.

Hilarious shot of Will vaguely looking around not really giving a shit, totally understandable.

Adding insult to injury is Ian telling the audience basically how they are only there to watch him.

I hope that is him joking but it doesn't translate well, telling the audience to check out MGMT when there is a 98% chance that they all know MGMT but not the bunnymen.

Festivals are for the younger generation and a young kid seeing the bunnymen for the first time at a festival must just wonder as to why they are there on the stage.

Especially a depressing lifeless performance peppered with a couple of done to death covers and knock knock jokes.

Maybe some better matreral on youtube will appear to lift these dark ominous clouds.
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Postby the ghost of guitarplayer » Sun Apr 18, 2010 6:05 pm

It is pretty sad, but what does anyone really expect? It's the same old Bunnymen [Mac] going through the motions doing their [his] chicken in the basket setlist. Probably why many of us can't go and see the Bunnymen live anymore. Still, I'm of the view that Mac's usual gruff voice might be alright for Crocodiles being performed live in its full entirety in December. HUH. Might be worth seeing live for the wincing factor.

But at 50, he should really have given up the fags by now at least for health reasons. As a smoker myself, he doesn't look cool with a ciggie anymore.
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Postby In The Margins » Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:52 pm

Echo and the Bunnymen, the velveteen rabbits rock out at Coachella 2010

http://www.examiner.com/x-36822-LA-Rock ... hella-2010

In the story of The Velveteen Rabbit, a cute stuffed rabbit becomes real by being loved to pieces and then wishing really hard. In 1978, Echo and the Bunnymen were a bunch of innocent teens seeking to be the greatest band in the world. It was part bravado, but partly accomplished back in the 80s. At the peak of their popularity, they fell to pieces. In 1997, they reunited, and since then have continued to be loved to pieces. But are they real yet?

Critical fans still long for the old days when the Bunnymen were creatures from a mysterious realm somewhere between lower heaven and higher hell. Lead singer Ian McCulloch's youthful looks, high hair do, and deep baritone voice seemed to be leading all on a great adventure through vast icy fields and deep blue oceans.

The Bunnymen took the Outdoor stage at Coachella around the same time as Them Crooked Vultures had quite a few songs left on their set. The opening strains of Will Sergeant's solo on “Rescue” thrilled all in attendance, causing quite a few to rush closer to the stage. They looked again like those mysterious creatures from another world swathed in occluding smoke and lowered blue lighting; miles away from the fabulous pinks and golds of Vampire Weekend which followed.

Will Sergeant originated the idea of shoe gaze. His guitar work is forever bitingly clear, undistorted, musical and accurate. Musically speaking, Sergeant's guitar work remains the band's main draw. He never cracks a smile, never says a word, and mostly shows the top of his thick head of hair, but he seems satisfied. They've always been understated performers.

McCulloch's voice and performance came across as solid, still capable of hitting highs and lows. His vocals now are more raw and grungy, but still powerful. It's hard not to miss what they were. Yes, he was a bit flat at times, but that's nothing new.

Perhaps if he laid off the obligatory mid-performance ciggie and chain-smoking, it might help restore some of that voice. And please, knock off the knock knock jokes. Yorrick Hunt isn't a real name, it's a ephemism for something naughty. Some of us got it and it was rather lame.

What McCulloch and the Bunnymen do that no one else does is sing other related songs in the middle of their compositions like dropping into the Doors “Roadhouse” during “Villiers Terrace” or Lou Reed's “Take a Walk on the Wild Side” during “Nothing Ever Lasts Forever.”

Kudos go to the keyboardist who displayed great skill and musicality on the Ray Manzarek styled “Bedbugs and Ballyhoo.” The nonsensical tune pleased the crowd and was one of their best of the “greatest hits” evening.

The rest of the band was solid, but obviously not in the same way as the original members. The most dedicated fans still long for Les Pattinson on bass and Pete DeFreitas on drums. They were an unparalleled and underrated rhythm section in their time who contributed greatly to the Bunnymen sound in how they played and how they filled out the songs the Bunnymen wrote together. Pattinson's bass possessed it's own groovy, offbeat, melodic and musical style. DeFreitas's style on drums ranged from delicate to doomy with minimal cymbals. Sadly, DeFreitas was killed in a motorcycle accident in 1989. Pattinson now plays with The Wild Swans at night with an old school chum while building boats in Liverpool during the day.

The Bunnymen plan to tour with songs from their early albums, Crocodiles and Heaven Up Here. HUH made it to the Rolling Stone 500 Best Albums of All Time list. Predicatably, they played nothing off the Fountain, their 2009 effort. Here's hoping they get back to their ephemeral roots for the next one.
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Postby Sick4Tunz » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:57 pm

morty wrote:There is no vibe from that crowd and you can't blame them as there is no vibe on stage.

Festivals are for the younger generation and a young kid seeing the bunnymen for the first time at a festival must just wonder as to why they are there on the stage.


I was at Coachella for the 3 days. I arrived a couple of sets early so that I could inch my way forward before The Bunnymen took the stage. Morty is correct, there was not much heat in the crowd for their performance compared to the band that came before (Passion Pit) and afterwards (Vampire Weekend), both young, vibrant bands better suited to the younger crowd. Quite a few negative comments from people waiting for thier act, making it clear the folks around me were not highly motivated to see them. I felt somewhat sad for The Bunnymen. Yes, it was an 80 degree night and he's wearing a heavy coat. They benefited from being sandwiched between two other bands popular with the younger crowd, but it emphasized their age and how old thier sound has become.

But I enjoyed the performance and may have been one of the more enthusiastic in the crowd. I recorded the whole show and will be posting it on VT later. You can then judge their performance for yourself. My wife swapped out computers during my 10 day absence and now everythings messed up. The wind picked up during their performance and there is some noise from that on parts of the recording. Should have used the foam caps on the mics. Another bootlegging learning lesson.

I printed a double sided sheet of paper with two ful page pics, with KOKs poem on one side and 10-12 suggestions in bullet form on what they should do to improve their performance (essentially pulled off of the VT pages). Printed 8 of them, folded into 1.5 inch squares addresses to "Mr. Echo" with Ian's young face showing on the opposite side. When the lights dimmed and Ian had turned his back, I flung all 8 on stage. I'm in trouble now! Was hoping he'd read the message from his fans but we know that will probably not be the case.

After Vampire weekend, Public Image Ltd. took the stage. I was now right up front and John Lydon was looking right down on me. Between having finished off the tequila and the beat of the music that followed, I was in a state of bliss, you know where like you might have an out of body experience during a voodoo ceremony. Before they launched into their first song that night, "This Is Not A Love Song", John loudly exclaimed "Turn up the volume Walter" That was too much for me. It was the best show of the day. I got home a few days ago to learn that PiL are performing here in Denver tomorrow night (Saturday). I got my ticket and expect to have a Coachella flash back.
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Postby Sick4Tunz » Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:22 pm

Here's the complete show.

Ian is still the shy, goofy kid he was back in the 1970's, with no chance of ever being a dynamic performer like so many others on stage at the festival.

He does a knock-knock joke after The Back of Love. Was it meant to be funny or is it a commentary on the crowd?

Sorry again for the wind noise that occasionally shows up on the recording. I 'll know better next time.

Gregorian Chant Intro
Do It Clean
Rescue
Villiers Terrace
Dancing Horses
Bedbugs and Bally Hoo
Nothing Lasts Forever
The Back of Love
Lips Like Sugar
The Killing Moon
The Cutter

http://whatatemper.blogspot.com/2010/04/coachella-echo-bunnymen.html
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Postby In The Margins » Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:36 pm

Sick4Tunz wrote:Here's the complete show.

Ian is still the shy, goofy kid he was back in the 1970's, with no chance of ever being a dynamic performer like so many others on stage at the festival.

He does a knock-knock joke after The Back of Love. Was it meant to be funny or is it a commentary on the crowd?

Sorry again for the wind noise that occasionally shows up on the recording. I 'll know better next time.

Gregorian Chant Intro
Do It Clean
Rescue
Villiers Terrace
Dancing Horses
Bedbugs and Bally Hoo
Nothing Lasts Forever
The Back of Love
Lips Like Sugar
The Killing Moon
The Cutter

http://whatatemper.blogspot.com/2010/04/coachella-echo-bunnymen.html


Thanks Walter. I'm looking forward to listening to it.

The knock-knock joke is vulgar. One of the reviews I found mentioned it. Being naive, I had to google it. The punch line is "Yorrick Hunt." I don't know why he has to be so vulgar. It's not a good look on him.
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Postby Sick4Tunz » Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:54 pm

I agree, I was both suprised and puzzled by the joke, as was the crowd. Its another example of where he has difficulty connecting with the people in the audience. There's more to being an entertainer than just getting up there to play the music.
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Postby morty » Sat Apr 24, 2010 5:50 pm

I am glad you were there for the bunnymen 'sick4tunz' and thanks for all your hard work.

The knock knock joke is not a good idea on stage - he just loves those knock knock jokes but they make him look ridiculous.

Reading all the reviews 'in the margins' has now posted of the other shows, particularly the house of blues review the 'half capacity crowd' says it all.

Doing smaller shows and not seling them out is not a good sign.

The Fountain has not done well and now they are resorting to other album themed shows that are arrogantly called masterclasses...

I am so glad I saw the ocean rain show in Liverool and thats how I want to remember them - i have seen another smaller show since and was extremely let down and felt embarrased for them so left early.

There was a sense of humility, beauty and timelessness about the ocean rain shows that is somehow gone - Ian could be aging gracefully but instead he's clutching onto youth and reciting knock knock jokes.

Can you imagine Bowie or Lou reed reducing themselves to this kind of behaviour?
I think not.

It aint easy being over 50 and still trying to prove you are relevant.

The cool thing with Bowie and Lou is that they don't need to try.
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Postby camden jack » Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:13 pm

Are we judging artistic merit and relevance by sales figures?? I hope not. Don't think he needs his career epitaph written just yet.
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