Mac At Anfield

by **Frank The Bunny** » Fri May 15, 2009 7:36 pm

withahip wrote:Oh, I thought you quit this forum b/c I called you a doosh.

It's not always about you, withahip.

by **black francis** » Fri May 15, 2009 7:47 pm

It was a reference to the idea that Bunnymen would be exposed to a hundred miilion Americans on the Morning Show or whatever it's called for the Liverpool event which is what the official site told us.

Did the Bunnymen even appear on the show?

by **withahip** » Fri May 15, 2009 7:59 pm

No.

And it is always about me.

doosh.

by **Scouser** » Sat May 16, 2009 8:43 am

Frank The Bunny wrote:I fucking quit worshipping this fucking band. I'm fucking done talking about them, caring about what they're supposedly fucking working on, their fucking half-assed live shows and special one-time-only motherfucking extrava-fuckin-ganzas, $60 limited-edition piece of shit live dvd/cd sets. They're bullshit. They're done. They're irrelevant. They've stopped fucking caring...a long time ago, so why should any of us still fucking care?

I came to that same conclusion about 2 years ago after yet another "cant be arsed, its the Liverpool Christnas show and everyone is either pissed or a Dave Smith who would drive 100 miles for any old shit we cobble together"

Then they did the "once in a lifetime, never to be repeated Albert Hall Ocean Rain show".

Then they did the "will be repeated quite often Ocean Rain with a full Orchestra" shows (again Dave Smith clocking up the miles).

Then the Big Mac In Pizza Hut doubel header (Dave Smith on the M6. Twice)

Then finally the ultimate pile of steaming turd that was Mac mumbling in the middle of Anfield (by this time even Dave Smith had left the car on the drive).

I cringe as to what is coming next...

by **Mr. Brian** » Sat May 16, 2009 9:05 am

Scouser wrote:
I cringe as to what is coming next...

Puppet Show and
Spinal Tap Reunion
with very special guests Echo & the Bunnymen
performing Ocean Rain with Stockton Jr High School Marching Band

at Themeland Amusement Park in Stockton, California?

by **black francis** » Sat May 16, 2009 9:34 am

Hey motherfucker, growing up in Central CA we went to Stockton when we got bored. That's how bad things were.

by **black francis** » Sat May 16, 2009 9:35 am

Scouser wrote:
Then the Big Mac In Pizza Hut doubel header (Dave Smith on the M6. Twice)

Out of respect for Dave Smith those are to be called the Spaghetti Sessions

by **JackT** » Sat May 16, 2009 10:50 am

I loved the Ocean Rain gig. It exceeded my expectations, and I was ecstatic throughout the whole affair. As far as I'm concerned, that makes everything else irrelevant, as far as the music is concerned.

Echo & the Bunnymen are a particular kind of band: legendary, influential, limited commercial success, with a small but loyal group of followers of a particular age.

I submit that this kind of band, in particular, must cultivate and maintain a close relationship with its fans.

Fan relationship is where they have dropped the ball, I think. They need a better interface with the world, better communication, and an appearance that lets the fans know that they are in business and are serious. They are not a large enterprise, and the fan base is relatively small, so this should be a modest undertaking. Much smaller bands have done a much better job at this.

[s]Real communication would change your view of everything you have an issue with[/s].

Real communication would change your view of everything with which you have an issue.

by **In The Margins** » Sat May 16, 2009 11:25 am

It troubles me to write this, but I think their actions show they have little regard for their fans, especially the small, but loyal faction.

That being said, however, I think in their minds they feel they have great regard for their fans. For instance, the b.s. that's fed to us regarding how wonderful the website is and the yearly post on the forum about how much they did for us during that year.

Also, review the last email they sent out. The first post was about following the band on Twitter and getting all these updates and the latest news and on and on. Are they truly deluded? The last blog posting on their myspace page was November 2007. Why will Twitter be any different?

Also, Peter Allen is a failure as a webmaster. He might be a nice guy in person, but as a webmaster he stinks. Who else remembers his forum rules of deleting old messages if they hadn't received a response? Or the rule where you had to have at least one posting, or your profile got deleted? The lastest rules fixate on being nice to one another but he can post the nastiest and meanest comments and there's no one there to censor him.

Despite this the band continues to have him represent them leading me to conclude that they don't really think much of the fans or the internet in general. It's a shame, really.

by **guitarplayer on here too** » Sat May 16, 2009 12:02 pm

Perhaps they are making an effort with Twitter (personally I want to call it Twitter shitter as I really hate these new fangled web savvy nerdy things), but the Bunnymen one is confusing by the name tags.

One published this week said that he (Mac or Orville?) was really honoured to sing at the Liverpool Hillsborough match, but the link of the source no longer worked. Another unidentified person said that they "aim to have the album released in September". Is that The Fountain? A further twitter shitter entry said last week that "Ian has gone back into the studio to re-record some vocals". What, for The Fountain?

The Bunnymen twitter feed is as cryptic as Peter's attempts at writing news releases. Surely if all these feed entries regard the Bunnymen then this important information for the fans should be relayed properly.

by **withahip** » Sat May 16, 2009 1:44 pm

Ian can't be bothered to get glasses, why would he bother learning Twitter?

If the band is into it, fine. But jumping onto the band wagon with no real drive to follow up - wow, I think I am hitting on something here.

by **Dave Smith** » Sat May 16, 2009 5:22 pm

Mac's appearance reminded me of Borat singing in the US.

by **guitarplayer on here too** » Sat May 16, 2009 5:46 pm

withahip wrote:Ian can't be bothered to get glasses, why would he bother learning Twitter?

The thing was, perhaps the "I was really honoured to sing at the Liverpool Hillsborough match" may have been him. Twitter shitter just makes no sense to me, at least when it as incomprehensible as the Bunnymen one.

by **JackT** » Sat May 16, 2009 5:55 pm

My impression is twitter is Web 2.0 jumping the shark. I think people will glom onto absolutely any new social networking thing no matter how trivial, in an attempt to be "net savvy." It reminds me of the early days of the WWW when everyone made a web site.

by **tonywojo** » Sat May 16, 2009 6:01 pm

Scouser wrote:I came to that same conclusion about 2 years ago after yet another "cant be arsed, its the Liverpool Christnas show and everyone is either pissed or a Dave Smith who would drive 100 miles for any old shit we cobble together"

Then they did the "once in a lifetime, never to be repeated Albert Hall Ocean Rain show".

Then they did the "will be repeated quite often Ocean Rain with a full Orchestra" shows (again Dave Smith clocking up the miles).

Then the Big Mac In Pizza Hut doubel header (Dave Smith on the M6. Twice)

Then finally the ultimate pile of steaming turd that was Mac mumbling in the middle of Anfield (by this time even Dave Smith had left the car on the drive).

Mac needs to put out some new material to show hes still got it.

Dave will lap it up whatever it is.

I cringe as to what is coming next...

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