Is Obama the next US president?

[withahip]

Stuff.


I miss Bill Maher.

You are really out of luck. Obama is moving more to the right every day. Both the New Yorker article and a recent Economist article gave similar outlines about this.

Bill Maher was a bitter man that reminded me of a left wing Rush Limbaugh.

I'm tired of people being required to agree 100% with one platform or the other. Quite unrealistic.

[In The Margins]

The problem is that NEITHER one would be "opportunistic, pandering and full of shit" ,plus they both wouldn't give two shits about having other people's/nation's money in their pockets (since they have no pockets) so it would be a difficult choice

Yet Robbie the Robot strikes me as more the annihilate first and ask questions later, while The Robot from LIS might try the diplomatic route first and then fry everyone. I guess it depends on who is programming the robots. That's why we need a sentient android with a positronic brain. Like Mr. Data.

[Mr. Brian]

Yet Robbie the Robot strikes me as more the annihilate first and ask questions later, while The Robot from LIS might try the diplomatic route first and then fry everyone. I guess it depends on who is programming the robots. That's why we need a sentient android with a positronic brain. Like Mr. Data.

But then Mr. Data's evil brother Lore would show up and try to take his place and betray the USA to the Crystalline Entity, a spaceborne creature which absorbs life forms for sustenance and was responsible for the destruction of the colony on Omicron Theta.

Now that's a New Yorker cover!

[In The Margins]

Yup. Scratch Mr. Data. He did have that thing with the Borg queen (which was totally creepy) so he's very weak. And Lore. Don't get me going on Lore. Back to a robot for president.

[JackT]

But then Mr. Data's evil brother Lore would show up and try to take his place and betray the USA to the Crystalline Entity, a spaceborne creature which absorbs life forms for sustenance and was responsible for the destruction of the colony on Omicron Theta.

Now that's a New Yorker cover!

Completely ridiculous. The Crystalline Entity is our ally.

[withahip]

But then Mr. Data's evil brother Lore would show up and try to take his place and betray the USA to the Crystalline Entity, a spaceborne creature which absorbs life forms for sustenance and was responsible for the destruction of the colony on Omicron Theta.

Now that's a New Yorker cover!

Actually we might all lose that 10 pounds.

[Mr. Brian]

Completely ridiculous. The Crystalline Entity is our ally.

I see you have bought into Lore's flip-flopping. He was against the Crystalline Entity before he was for it. At least that's the way Morbo reported it on √2 News.

[insanejane]

You are really out of luck. Obama is moving more to the right every day. Both the New Yorker article and a recent Economist article gave similar outlines about this.

Bill Maher was a bitter man that reminded me of a left wing Rush Limbaugh.

I'm tired of people being required to agree 100% with one platform or the other. Quite unrealistic.

I read that too. As of this week McCain and Obama are one in the same. Also I read that Obama's trip to Iraq is just one giant photo op, unlike McCain's.


Bill Maher will be back in Aug. He's on vacation. Until then, I try to switch channels if Dennis Miller happens to be on, who's never bitter, just one hell of a sarcastic son of a bitch.


No one's required to be a Republican or Democrat. There are other parties and there's also the option of not voting.

[insanejane]

Yet Robbie the Robot strikes me as more the annihilate first and ask questions later, while The Robot from LIS might try the diplomatic route first and then fry everyone. I guess it depends on who is programming the robots. That's why we need a sentient android with a positronic brain. Like Mr. Data.

I was only joking when I suggested robots for president although supposedly we are working on robotic soldiers to replace our soldiers in combat.

Robots only "think" in black and white, no gray areas. I don't know if they'd reason well enough when it came to whether or not to push the red button.

[withahip]

What are everyone's thoughts on the recent "New Yorker" cover?

Anyone remember when Art Spiegleman's cover that caused an uproar in NYC?




Off the net:
Spiegelman states that his resignation from the New Yorker was to protest the "widespread conformism" in the United States media. Spiegelman is a sharp critic of the administration of President George W. BushGeorge Walker Bush (born July 6, 1946) is the 43rd and current President of the United States. His first four-year term as President began on January 20, 2001 following the controversial U. presidential election, 2000, where for the first time in American and claims that the American media has become "conservative and timid". Spiegelman claims that the New Yorker censored his work including a 4th of July cover containing an atomic bomb and a Thanksgiving issue showing U.S. military aircraft dropping turkeys over Afghanistan and titled "Operation Enduring Turkey".

[black francis]

I don't know if they'd reason well enough when it came to whether or not to push the red button.

I want to be president just so I can see that doomsday briefcase, blindly push a few buttons and see what happens.

[withahip]

The flip flop thing is getting pulled on Obama. I wish Dubyah had flip flopped a little before going to Iraq.

Maybe we are " kind of a nation of whiners?" Sorry I couldn't resist trying to Phil this thread with a Gramm of humor.

[Frank The Bunny]

[Mr. Brian]

The flip flop thing is getting pulled on Obama. I wish Dubyah had flip flopped a little before going to Iraq.

He did...but not in the way you wanted

He [Gore] believes in nation building. I would be very careful ...
Oct. 4, 2000 George W. Bush

A nation-building corps from America. Absolutely not.
Oct. 11, 2000 George W. Bush

I'm worried about an opponent who uses nation building and the military in the same sentence.
Nov. 6, 2000 George W. Bush

Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. Our coalition is now engaged in securing and reconstructing that country.
2003, George W. Bush

Rebuilding Iraq will require a sustained commitment from many nations, including our own: We will remain in Iraq as long as necessary, and not a day more. America has made and kept this kind of commitment before -- in the peace that followed a world war.
2003, George W. Bush

In the 83 days since I announced the end of major combat operations in Iraq, we have made progress, steady progress, in restoring hope in a nation beaten down by decades of tyranny.
2003, George W. Bush

[JackT]

To call that as a "flip-flop", you have to:

a)classify what we are doing in Iraq as "nation building". That is at least debatable.

b)ignore Sept. 11

Lots of people changed their minds about lots of things between Sept. 10, 2001 and Sept 11, 2001. You can agree or disagree with the perceptions they had before or after, or the conclusions that they drew, but calling it a "flip flop" would be innaccurate.