Selling Out

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Selling Out

Postby black francis » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:23 pm

I'm not as quick to level charges of sell out like I was in my youth when selling more than a hundred copies of an album was selling out.

The Flaming Lips have pushed the envelope of good taste performing on 90210, performing at corporate outings, etc. I loved them so much I turned a blind eye and who am I to tell them how to make a living? Well after a disastrous live show cut short by technical difficulties and what precious little time we did have was spent on an anti-Bush and his policies rant I became a little more cynical towards their extra curricular activities. Let Mitsubishi use "Do You Realize??" for a commercial? Fine. AT&T? Well okay. But now Merrill fucking Lynch? One of the companies receiving bailout money and still forking over huge bonuses to their executives? I don't know about that one....
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Postby withahip » Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:55 pm

Seems you aren't the only one - did you write this?
http://ccsbandwagon.blogspot.com/2009/1 ... rrill.html


When music is used like that it may be because it is the only way a band can make money; it may also be the labels call.

Don't get too down on the FL. they have been on Warner Brothers - one of the biggest entertainment companies in the world - for almost two decades.

And FL fans aren't thrilled
http://www.flaminglips.com/forum/genera ... rill-lynch



And as for Wayne?
"You should do what you love. There is honor in all that sort of stuff. If everybody just went where the money was we’d all have been working for ****ing Merrill Lynch. So do what you love and find a way to make money. **** it man. The best shit in the world is done by people who have nothing else that they want to do. You don’t have to be the richest guy on the block to have the best life. "

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/cultur ... e-atp.html
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Postby withahip » Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:57 pm

Oh, and I have heard that tune on a Mitsubishi commerical, Land Rover and Hewett-Packard Commercial.

Come on - sell out to the nth degreee.
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Postby black francis » Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:02 pm

This has been brewing in my head since I saw the commercial two weeks ago.
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Postby black francis » Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:06 pm

Like this line from the Flaming Lips forum

"Some people have a hard time having their special club of music and hipster badges taken from them."
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Postby withahip » Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:12 pm

I used to be don't sell out and was so down with the quote you put down.

Radio - aside from college stations - is SO bad in my area that commercials have actually been some of the places I have heard new bands. Not often - but way more often than any radio station.

It must be age - because this is showing me that quirky music can be profitable - even if this one is pretty accesible.

Sadly, EATB can't seem to figure out how to sell out.
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Postby fat cherry » Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:11 pm

i'm sure i saw them on the telly and they had giant muppets on stage and that wayne bloke was pretending to bleed or somthing and i thought, well this is crap so i never went any further than that. and so he's a two faced tosser, well..... goes with the territory doesn't it. as the late great noel gallagher once sang, please dont put your life in the hands of a rock n roll ba-a-and, who'll throw it all away. though i still prefer it when hs brother sang somethign about the sun-she-i-i-ine. where was I/ Oh yes. the only time i was moved by anything was listening to a chemical brothers cd (which i bought by accident one afternoon whilst drunk) andf I thought, hmm, is that mcculloch singing, hasty check of the sleeve notes... no its that bloke from the flaming lips.
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Postby black francis » Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:25 pm

Their live show is a bit over the top and has gotten stale but on album there is some pretty great, heartfelt stuff.

I've gotten past the "sell out" phase of my angst ridden youth but the Merrill Lynch commercial did cause me to raise an eye brow.
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Postby tonywojo » Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:35 pm

black francis wrote:Their live show is a bit over the top and has gotten stale but on album there is some pretty great, heartfelt stuff.

I've gotten past the "sell out" phase of my angst ridden youth but the Merrill Lynch commercial did cause me to raise an eye brow.


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Postby zabird » Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:25 pm

withahip wrote:Radio - aside from college stations - is SO bad in my area that commercials have actually been some of the places I have heard new bands. Not often - but way more often than any radio station.

It must be age - because this is showing me that quirky music can be profitable - even if this one is pretty accesible.

Sadly, EATB can't seem to figure out how to sell out.


New bands can be had cheap ... that's why the new Twilight soundtrack is loaded with newer, younger bands. Which should help their exposure in the long run. I think TV shows too.

The Bunnies need to work a little harder on the sell-out front ... learn a thing or two from the Buzzcocks -- Everybody's Happy Nowadays was used in an AARP ad.
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Postby withahip » Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:58 pm

EATB can do it! Or could have!

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Postby fat cherry » Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:18 pm

withahip wrote:EATB can do it! Or could have!


well that s quite interesting, hahmmmmmm. lost boys - the song over the closing credits, often given the gong status, we get three versions of the same single but waddaya know......, and yet theres INXS in yout list.

Pretty in Pink, just a snippet of Horses appears in the record shop scene - so neither here not there.

Donnie Darko - main song over the opening scene. Slow burnning cult film over here so who knows but the placement of the song is perfect and should be BIG. What happens? over this side f the atlantic they start playing the gary jules (is that him? where is he now? whats his forum full of i wonder) version of that godawful tears for fears song - not at all misplaced in the film as it happens - - - and its the christmas number one ( i think, i'm making it up again here but cuould be true) and then theres the effing directors cut and he puts inx-effing-s up front instead. What an idiot. realistically he was an idiot for having that lot of stones wanabees anywhere near the film but thats only my opinion. SO. Yes. COuld-a-been but with that exposure. What could you do? hmmm? gary jules.... flipping 'eck.
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Postby black francis » Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:29 pm

Why the director swapped the Bunnymen for INXS is one of life's great mysteries. Like Bigfoot, the Loch Ness Monster and why one sock is always missing from the dryer. I know people who saw that movie and were like what is that song? It's incredible. I can't imagine anything by INXS provoking that type of reaction.
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Postby black francis » Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:33 pm

Dear God it's awful

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Postby black francis » Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:36 pm

Much better

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