A great band but no better than the Bunnymen who were good friends of JD.
Listened to E&tB again recently. The lyrics were poor - not a patch on JD.
A moot point, but the guitar was special.
I prefer Joy Division too but I disagree with you on the Bunnymen's lyrics. I find them quite interesting. I don't know what half of them are about, but I enjoy them nonetheless.
I read somewhere many years ago that decades was written about echo and the bunnymen,probably a load of bollocks but you never know.
Went to the Ture Faith exhibition in manchester last week - dragged the yougest daughter there since there was no fooling her that I dropped into Manchester just visit her in her new student flat. Whilst this was supposed to be an exhibition about the influence (or something) if JD abd NO (as we call them) on art and stuff manchesterwise, it was a bit disappointing. Apart from a few artefacts (and there were just a few) it could have been cobbled together from any 70s 80s miserablist students belongings left to catch dust in their parents attic whn they went off to find a proper job (before gap years were de riguer, natch). Obviosuly that would have been helped if they had a couple of printers that could do ten foot high versions of the pictures of Curtis doing his pr-epileptic fit dance - which was kind of impressive even a difficult to please old git like me would have to admit. Also a massive version of that picture in the article mentioned here.
As for the other 'art' it was a might be expected, black and yellow industrial welding malarky (some people get paid to write this stuff you know, I do it for free here), and some tailors dummy/dementor type stuff in parkas with names of New Order songs or albums painted on the back - there was probably more interesting stuff at my step-daughters graduation show last year - though to be fair, a load of shite there too).
Of the actual original things - the FAC1 poster for the original Factory night, Rob Gretton's notebook (a page on how everything ought to be its own art statement so not just a gig/album/tour etc. All in v neat girly writing - as was Curtis's original scrawling of LWTUA lyrics.
Daughter seemed to think the little room with the videos on a huge telly was the best bit, but then she seemed to enjoy the other room with an 'experimental' film on rotation too (maybe she'd add enough by then). Speaking of which, obviously the word 'experimental' in conjunction with the word 'film' ought to send one running to the hills, and this didn't disappoint inthat respect - alot of grainy 70s scenes (including 'Erics in the 'pool, dirty streets with youths (footy fans rampaging etc), trains, bits of motorway, all against a soundtrack of Sergentian bleeps, whirring and farty noises.
Oh and the only other buns reference was the poster for the Factoryt meets Zoo gig.
Anyways. To address the suggestion, above, there was little sense of knockabout laughter and general clowning. Apart from this video of course:
I got to see it last year, and remembered an earlier Peter Saville exhibition at the Urbis in Manchester probably mid noughties. Was all the JD & NO stuff along with OMD and a few Roxy artwork
With the Force as his ally he did battle with the Dark Lord. And he showed the measure of a true Jedi at a place called "The Death Star" where hope for the Galaxy was reborn. May all who struggle against tyranny hold his memory in their hearts
S'OK, given myself a sound thrashing, and now I'm fine. Was looking for some comedic youtube clip but only found some film from 1998 with pronella scales tightening some young filly's corset up (and peter ustinov on a train)