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Trying to find the appropriate thread to post this in,

Postby Ocean Rain » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:34 am

but I get lost in the other threads, so... In regards to that Mojo interview with Mac, I was reading this Wikipedia article, and thought some of it is applicable to Mac's narrative: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoid_p ... y_disorder .

I don't mean to stir up anything, it looked interesting, but if anyone's offended by it - I don't feel attached to this explanation, I'm taking my own reference light-heartedly.
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Postby fat cherry » Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:40 am

or delusional pop star personlaity disorder. Gotta love psychology. it wont be long before they run out of subsets of disorders and its touch and go whether they'll manage to classify us all.

if youre saying Mac's a loony, this is the place. If youre saying Julian Cope's a loony - its the other one. If youre saying we're all loonies, its the other one beyond that. If youre saying Mr Brian's a loony is the one at the bottom.

Tony Fletcher spends a whole chapter of his book on Keith Moon pondering a similar question. Though I htink what you are saying is. Dave - you still there Dave - can you share some of your drugs with Mac please.
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Postby Ocean Rain » Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:53 am

I think I lost you with the last two paragraphs. The first one was a nice touch though - I've been through evaluation myself, and I too think that everyone going through that process is going to be diagnosed with a disorder. I'd be glad to find any evidence to the contrary, but I still haven't heard of anyone who did psych evaluation tests and got certified sane.
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Postby Dave Smith » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:37 am

fat cherry wrote:or delusional pop star personlaity disorder. Gotta love psychology. it wont be long before they run out of subsets of disorders and its touch and go whether they'll manage to classify us all.

if youre saying Mac's a loony, this is the place. If youre saying Julian Cope's a loony - its the other one. If youre saying we're all loonies, its the other one beyond that. If youre saying Mr Brian's a loony is the one at the bottom.

Tony Fletcher spends a whole chapter of his book on Keith Moon pondering a similar question. Though I htink what you are saying is. Dave - you still there Dave - can you share some of your drugs with Mac please.


FC Im doing fine thanks and not ashamed to talk about meds-half of the UK seem to be on them!Its hard but the main thing is you HAVE TO HELP YOURSELF by admitting you are going down and need to do something about it-ie give up booze etc for a couple of months and just take it easy until they start to work,The fact meds take weeks to kick in means a lot of people just give up or feel there is a stigma to it.Myself I didnt drink for four months and even now limit it.I am a qualified accountant who tried to hide it from myself and other people for weeks........ended up staring at a screen for 7.5 hours and couldnt do anything.That was the day I knew I had to act.Ive got friends who WILL not give up the booze even after being prescribed meds and they are screwed.
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Postby Mr. Brian » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:42 am

Ocean Rain wrote:I think I lost you with the last two paragraphs.


I think FC is saying that this is the right place for your post of the available subforums:

Echo & The Bunnymen - Mac is a loony

Gods Will Be Gods - Cope is a loony

Over The Wall - We are all loonies

All I Want -- Mr Brian is a loony (although Over The Wall would work too)
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Postby fat cherry » Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:04 am

thats what i meant to say.
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Re: Trying to find the appropriate thread to post this in,

Postby Malbert » Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:16 am

Ocean Rain wrote:In regards to that Mojo interview with Mac.


I did not read this article, but what do people really expect from actors, musicians, celebs in general when reading an interview? The interviewer is only there for a short amount of time, he/she is not friends with the person he/she is interviewing, yet there is some expectation of intimacy on a very basic level. An interview is a very quick verbal snapshot into that person's life on a specific day. Would an interview be different if it had been done on a Saturday instead of a Monday? My point is one cannot sum up a person's entire mental well being from pieces of fluff. I've worked with people who are legitimately mentally ill, and to give Mac a pseudo diagnosis because of several interviews or poor performances isn't fair. Maybe he's just an asshole? There's nothing in the DSM-VI on that.
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Re: Trying to find the appropriate thread to post this in,

Postby kook » Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:38 am

Ocean Rain wrote:
I don't mean to stir up anything, it looked interesting, but if anyone's offended by it - I don't feel attached to this explanation, I'm taking my own reference light-heartedly.
Every word is like an unnecessary stain on silence and nothingness.
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Re: Trying to find the appropriate thread to post this in,

Postby kook » Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:38 am

Ocean Rain wrote:
I don't mean to stir up anything, it looked interesting, but if anyone's offended by it - I don't feel attached to this explanation, I'm taking my own reference light-heartedly.
Every word is like an unnecessary stain on silence and nothingness.
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Postby Dr Cheese » Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:04 am

Dave Smith wrote:I am a qualified accountant who tried to hide it from myself

There's no shame these days in being an accountant Dave.
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Postby JackT » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:52 pm

Dr Cheese wrote:There's no shame these days in being an accountant Dave.


I know several of those people. I'm not actually friends with them, but they seem like the sort that someone else could be friends with.
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Re: Trying to find the appropriate thread to post this in,

Postby Ocean Rain » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:55 pm

Malbert wrote:I did not read this article, but what do people really expect from actors, musicians, celebs in general when reading an interview? The interviewer is only there for a short amount of time, he/she is not friends with the person he/she is interviewing, yet there is some expectation of intimacy on a very basic level. An interview is a very quick verbal snapshot into that person's life on a specific day. Would an interview be different if it had been done on a Saturday instead of a Monday? My point is one cannot sum up a person's entire mental well being from pieces of fluff. I've worked with people who are legitimately mentally ill, and to give Mac a pseudo diagnosis because of several interviews or poor performances isn't fair. Maybe he's just an asshole? There's nothing in the DSM-VI on that.

He spoke an awful lot of nonsense for 'a short amount of time'.

And I did know some people would take my post as being judgemental, but I honestly wouldn't post it here if I were taking the idea seriously. :neutral: Everything I wrote in this thread is just 'a bit of meaningless fluff', nothing more.
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Postby Voodoo Billy » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:14 pm

Mr. Brian wrote:I think FC is saying that this is the right place for your post of the available subforums:

Echo & The Bunnymen - Mac is a loony

Gods Will Be Gods - Cope is a loony

Over The Wall - We are all loonies

All I Want -- Mr Brian is a loony (although Over The Wall would work too)


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Re: Trying to find the appropriate thread to post this in,

Postby Malbert » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:18 pm

Ocean Rain wrote:

I did know some people would take my post as being judgemental


It was not my intent to seem judgemental, and I just wanted to make the point about interviews in general in my post. Carry on then.
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Postby Ocean Rain » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:20 pm

No, no, I meant I might've seemed judgemental. It's just that I take these subjects more lightly, being insane myself.
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