EATB Business Model

by **withahip** » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:50 am

What defines the EATB business model?

Discuss.

by **black francis** » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:53 am

Charging for a limited edition, super duper autographed collectors CD/DVD package with premium prices and then never ship knowing the enthusiastic BOF crowd will be VERY loathe to complain and when they do just say it's the Post Office fault.

Fuck me maybe they really do know what the hell they're doing.

by **Voodoo Billy** » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:56 am

Who mentioned 'model'? Are there photos?

by **withahip** » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:59 am

Having management slam fans who want a return to something unique as being out of the loop with what sells . . . .and then having the band go on tours preforming three of their first four albums in their entirety.

by **fat cherry** » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:59 am

cottage industry, though without that much industry.

by **withahip** » Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:14 am

Cottage cheese.

by **Frank The Bunny** » Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:29 pm

withahip wrote:What defines the EATB business model?

Discuss.

"Business model? We ain't got no business model. We don't need no business model! I don't have to show you any stinkin' business model!"

by **Mr.Sparkle** » Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:36 pm

Whatever it is, it ain't good.

by **DivaDiana77** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:28 am

withahip wrote:Having management slam fans who want a return to something unique as being out of the loop with what sells . . . .and then having the band go on tours preforming three of their first four albums in their entirety.

It's the unique bands which actually do well in many cases. Wish they would get a clue about that. Oh well. They had it right in the 80s when they started then Mac lost it. Whatever.

Shouldn't this forum say "loose hope all ye who enter here"? (loose on purpose)

by **Dr Evil** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:21 am

Releasing the worst song they can find on the albums, never the gems. Started with NLF and got worse ever since. Not the way to get new fans. If it wasn't for youtube Bunnymen concerts would be a geriatrics convention-even to search for the band in the first place is an act of faith over reason. Their singles are in fact anti-marketing devices designed to discourage the uninitiated.

by **the ghost of guitarplayer** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:54 am

Dr Evil wrote:Releasing the worst song they can find on the albums, never the gems. Started with NLF and got worse ever since. Not the way to get new fans. If it wasn't for youtube Bunnymen concerts would be a geriatrics convention-even to search for the band in the first place is an act of faith over reason. Their singles are in fact anti-marketing devices designed to discourage the uninitiated.

NLF - for one thing, I wouldn't be on here if that hadn't been released as I'm sure I Want to Be There and Don't Let It Get You Down would of gone right past me. I was 24 in 1997 when it came out and I knew many people younger that bought Evergreen on the strength of NLF. No 8 in the pop pickers charts as well, played on Radio 1 all the time so clearly it wasn't the wrong choice there and it was indeed what the kids wanted. I also remember watching I Want to Be There on Later With Jools Holland (also done with NLF) and thinking cool, I want to see this band live, and then hearing the album version and being really disappointed with how it sounded and then thinking they better not release Don't Let It Get You Down as it was shit other than the guitar hook. Obviously, the omens for 13 years of frustration had already appeared back then.

Agree with the rest though.

by **Mr.Sparkle** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:19 pm

Dr Evil wrote:Releasing the worst song they can find on the albums, never the gems. Started with NLF and got worse ever since. Not the way to get new fans. If it wasn't for youtube Bunnymen concerts would be a geriatrics convention-even to search for the band in the first place is an act of faith over reason. Their singles are in fact anti-marketing devices designed to discourage the uninitiated.

NLF was one of their biggest hits, but to me it's one of the least Bunnymen "sounding" songs, just an obvious attempt to sound like the bands that were popular at the time. I don't think the management can be blamed for the single selections, unless they're the ones explicitly selecting them. The real problem is the songs themselves and the obvious and transparent attempt by Mac to write top 10 songs. And it fails pretty much everytime. It's like Ian is trying to make up for the 80's and not having the big hits, but the irony is the "weird" stuff the Bunnymen did then WOULD be more popular if released today as opposed to the overly poppy crap he writes now, which isn't as popular as it was in the 80's, if that makes any sense.

by **moses (2)** » Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:52 am

This looks like a sound approach to me

http://www.selfpossessedrecords.com/?page_id=9

by **DivaDiana77** » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:34 pm

Evergreen was a good album really.

1997 also Depeche Mode going the closest to full on grunge they ever got.

13 years ago now for both of them. Wow.

What else came out that year that's really worth listening to again?

by **Mr. Brian** » Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:48 pm

DivaDiana77 wrote:
What else came out that year that's really worth listening to again?

Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space by Spiritualized is one of my favorite albums

Radiohead's OK Computer came out that year too along with Yo La Tengo's I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One and Urban Hymns by The Verve.

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