'Think I Need It Too' due out on July 14?

[Lancashire Fusileer]

I'd say being on Warners in the 1980s is utterly different from being on Warners now.

I reckon they'd be far, far better on a very credible young independent label like Domino or Leaf (for point of argument)

[Lancashire Fusileer]

But not Rough TRade cos they're shite. Or a cred label like Matador in the States

[guitarplayer on here too]

The Bunnymen would not have been in the 1980s if it was not for Warners. But now it's changed. Gigs generate the most money for bands than sales of CDs. Digital sales are starting to outstrip CD sales. Most major record labels are shitting themselves because they are extremely worried about these trends.

[tonywojo]

But not Rough TRade cos they're shite. Or a cred label like Matador in the States

In Rough Trade shop in Brick Lane - very expensive and corporate.

They would never sign with them.

Best on their own.

[Dr Cheese]

It's things like this that make me wonder why they stick at it, I mean I'm glad they do and all but if it was me I'd have probably said bollocks to it years ago.

[withahip]

It's things like this that make me wonder why they stick at it, I mean I'm glad they do and all but if it was me I'd have probably said bollocks to it years ago.

What else are they going to do at this point? Work in a bank? I mean Les makes boats -ok - maybe open Bunnymen B&B?

[JackT]

It's things like this that make me wonder why they stick at it, I mean I'm glad they do and all but if it was me I'd have probably said bollocks to it years ago.

I kind of have that same thought whenever I see ANY band perform. I always think, "Why do they do this?" Do they make any money? What can the payoff possibly be? Which one in the band will quit first?

[withahip]

When I saw the Alarm last year, I ended up on a yacht with the band (hey, I'll take it - even with aging 80s band with one original member) and I ended up talking with the bass payer and guitar player (I think) who had played with Sisters of Mercy and Stiff Little Fingers and in a nutshell they explained it that they are the new oldies bands and the touring circuit pays well enough to keep them from getting a day job. If a band folds, they have been in enough bands where someone else picks them up.

This keeps younger folks in playing as stage musicians for the likes of the Will & Mac because it adds to their resume and gives Will & Mac an inexpensive source of talent.

It sounded like a win win.

I think that is what he said.

[Mr. Brian]

When I saw the Alarm last year, I ended up on a yacht with the band (hey, I'll take it - even with aging 80s band with one original member) and I ended up talking with the bass payer and guitar player (I think) who had played with Sisters of Mercy and Stiff Little Fingers and in a nutshell they explained it that they are the new oldies bands and the touring circuit pays well enough to keep them from getting a day job. If a band folds, they have been in enough bands where someone else picks them up.

This keeps younger folks in playing as stage musicians for the likes of the Will & Mac because it adds to their resume and gives Will & Mac an inexpensive source of talent.

It sounded like a win win.

I think that is what he said.

Sounds like a nice gig to me!

[JackT]

When I saw the Alarm last year, I ended up on a yacht with the band (hey, I'll take it - even with aging 80s band with one original member) and I ended up talking with the bass payer and guitar player (I think) who had played with Sisters of Mercy and Stiff Little Fingers and in a nutshell they explained it that they are the new oldies bands and the touring circuit pays well enough to keep them from getting a day job. If a band folds, they have been in enough bands where someone else picks them up.

This keeps younger folks in playing as stage musicians for the likes of the Will & Mac because it adds to their resume and gives Will & Mac an inexpensive source of talent.

It sounded like a win win.

I think that is what he said.

Then they all violated you and set you adrift?

[withahip]

Then they all violated you and set you adrift?

Oh Jack!

[Mr. Brian]

Then they all violated you and set you adrift?

[withahip]

The Bunnymen would not have been in the 1980s if it was not for Warners. But now it's changed. Gigs generate the most money for bands than sales of CDs. Digital sales are starting to outstrip CD sales. Most major record labels are shitting themselves because they are extremely worried about these trends.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-alPPwSBRo&NR=1[/youtube]

[fat cherry]

The Bunnymen would not have been in the 1980s if it was not for Warners..

so what does that sentence mean? they wouldn't have existed? that its all down to warners? Bit more complex than that methinks. I'd say drummond was the main driving force and could have been any label. then as now, it seems, the band cant get off their arses, business-wise unless someones kicking them (the arses that is). If this bloke at warners is still looking for a job then he could steer them in the right direction. Though having sad that, if he is still looking for a job, after all this time, he's perhaps not the best bloke to approach. hmm strokes chin. Perhaps I am wrong, and they do have it all sussed and its all just bad luck, hmm, strokes chin....

[guitarplayer on here too]

Without being on a major label (like Warners) to put the music out, then they might not have gone on, irrelevant of Drummond, etc. Taking a DIY route or banging out Bunnymen singles and albums on Zoo or some other indie label with limited print runs of 4,000 were hardly going to make it worth for the band to carry on even if Drummond came up with a hundred different wild schemes to promote the band. It's all hypothetical, but getting signed to a major label was necessary in terms of the power, financial clout and monopoly that the labels had within the music industry at that time. Even many small scale "indie" labels had to tie themselves to the majors by signing deals to ensure the worldwide distribution of their records (some still have to if they are releasing music by CD). Now, it is not necessary to be on a major for the reasons listed, especially with the way that gigs are now raking in more money than music sales for many bands.