NEW BUNNYMEN ALBUM

[Dr Cheese]

They've been playing nearly the exact same set list for at least the past 6 years.

and the rest!

[bluegrace]

I would prefer for them to play live every now and then but not put out any new material. They are great live when they are good.

[Sick4Tunz]

I would prefer for them to play live every now and then but not put out any new material. They are great live when they are good.

Not just play the same set list live over and over again, but to mix it up by performing songs from their ample catalogue of albums. There's no reason to play the same set list two nights in a row. If people knew this, people would be more likely to buy a second ticket for the second night (yeah, yeah, yeah, we are doing that already anyway).

[oceanbrain]

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:43 pm Post subject:

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those snippets sound fuckin woeful at best,are these outakes off the fountain.........has macs songwriting nosedived to thinking of a title then singing it over & over again with shit overdubs......no or little sign of will......lets face it this is just another mac solo in disguise..........pack it in mac while the goings bad!

[5times]

Well those snippets have totally destroyed any hope that we slightly harboured for the album. Is anybody actually going to listen to it when it comes out?

[crystal89]

If it's bad, then I say blame Youth for saying "yes Mac it's amazing, kerching kerching"

The overdubs are what appear to be letting it down, I think the songs themselves are similar to things off Evergreen or Siberia, but hearing twenty Mac's is just wrong, just put some reverb on the vocals like the old days, solves the problem. And put Will up in the mix.

[goingupupup]

Honestly, why is Will even a part of this anymore? He is just as integral to the Bunnymen as Ian is. Does he not contribute to the song writing process at all these days? For them to release an album that's going to sound like this and call it Echo and the Bunnymen is ridiculous if you ask me.

[Mr.Sparkle]

Honestly, why is Will even a part of this anymore? He is just as integral to the Bunnymen as Ian is. Does he not contribute to the song writing process at all these days? For them to release an album that's going to sound like this and call it Echo and the Bunnymen is ridiculous if you ask me.

I'm guessing Will needs a paycheck and is probably sick of fighting with Ian in terms of direction and songwriting. I also get a feeling he's not really interested in writing typical rock or pop music anymore, he alludes to it in interviews. Why do the songs sound so half-assed that's what I'd like to know.

[Dr Cheese]

Honestly, why is Will even a part of this anymore?

He needs to pay bills.

He is just as integral to the Bunnymen as Ian is. Does he not contribute to the song writing process at all these days?

Will Sergeant: “In the early days, we’d just go into a room and jam, and just see what came out. Nowadays Ian [McCulloch] just presents me with the songs and says ‘here you are, play some guitar on that’ – it’s crap really.

“I don’t get any creative satisfaction from the Bunnymen stuff any more,” he adds. “I was driven to forming Poltergeist because the Bunnymen had gone so weird. It just feels like I’m a session musician nowadays – without Poltergeist, I’d probably top myself to be honest.”

[crystal89]

Perhaps as part of the deal for reforming the Bunnymen, Mac negotiated full creative rights and first veto on any ideas from anyone apart from himself.

Others might know better than me what went on, but I reckon that's pretty close to the mark.

[Dave Smith]

Well what I can't understand are the writing credits solely to Mac.Either Mac said "you had no input so you get no credit Will,take it or leave it " or Will said "I don't like these songs so you have the sole writing credit if it all goes tits up".I would like to know the answer...

[crystal89]

I reckon it's a bit of both.

Let's check from the last album, what were the really crap songs and who were they credited to?

[Dr Cheese]

I doubt Will is too arsed about getting writing credits on the new album, it's not like it's going to make them loads of money. I think it's widely acknowledged that these days bands make all their money from live gigs which is presumably why he's still involved.

[in_bluer_skyz]

I doubt Will is too arsed about getting writing credits on the new album, it's not like it's going to make them loads of money. I think it's widely acknowledged that these days bands make all their money from live gigs which is presumably why he's still involved.

Sounds right, Dr. C., and it's not like Will wrote anything on it anyway so a few guitar riffs won't be creating any waves in the world of writing credits.

Will be in Paris when they play. Might just go and see the Eiffel Tower light show instead. May provide more excitement!

[in_bluer_skyz]

Will Sergeant: “In the early days, we’d just go into a room and jam, and just see what came out. Nowadays Ian [McCulloch] just presents me with the songs and says ‘here you are, play some guitar on that’ – it’s crap really.

“I don’t get any creative satisfaction from the Bunnymen stuff any more,” he adds. “I was driven to forming Poltergeist because the Bunnymen had gone so weird. It just feels like I’m a session musician nowadays – without Poltergeist, I’d probably top myself to be honest.”

Paycheck....from fans....being fleeced. The shitty part is when band members physically come out and say those things yet they don't mind continuing on and taking people's money. Used to kind of feel genuine, not anymore.