New U2 album media circus / Bunnymen dropped

by **Kounelaki** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:08 pm

Er, they were both rock bands. People might not compare the Strokes and Lil Wayne, but they might compare Editors and Interpol, or Public Enemy and NWA, or Human League and ABC, or Sarah Vaughan and Billie Holiday, etc.

by **kook** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:12 pm

Kounelaki wrote:Er, they were both rock bands. People might not compare the Strokes and Lil Wayne, but they might compare Editors and Interpol, or Public Enemy and NWA, or Human League and ABC, or Sarah Vaughan and Billie Holiday, etc.

Now that's just rubbish!
Sarah Vaughan was around for much longer and she didn't have a man's name.
Did Martin Frye have his nipples pierced? huh? huh?

by **Kounelaki** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:35 pm

kook wrote:Now that's just rubbish!
Sarah Vaughan was around for much longer and she didn't have a man's name.
Did Martin Frye have his nipples pierced? huh? huh?

by **Mr.Sparkle** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:37 pm

Kounelaki wrote:Er, they were both rock bands. People might not compare the Strokes and Lil Wayne, but they might compare Editors and Interpol, or Public Enemy and NWA, or Human League and ABC, or Sarah Vaughan and Billie Holiday, etc.

Yeah, they might compare Editors and Interpol or the Human League and ABC because they sound VERY similar and are indeed music contemporaries. That's not the case with Joy Division and U2. When I think of music contemporaries, I think of bands that are around at the same time that have similar sounds, been influenced by similar bands, etc. I'm pretty sure that's the case with most people.

Joy Division had a totally different kind of singer, bassist, guitarist and music than U2, which is probably why before reading this thread I've never heard anyone compare the two.

Just because two band are by the dictionary definition "contemporaries" does not actually make them musical contemporaries which is kinda my whole point with the Strokes and Lil Wayne comparison. Plus, it's just insulting to Joy Division.

by **Kounelaki** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:06 pm

So, you don't like U2?

by **withahip** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:51 pm

I loved U2 at one time. I have tired of Bono's voice and the music plaes to the hype.

There is no way their music can live up to the hype/media attention it is given.

The Bunnymen exceed the attention they are given. And Mac isn't everywhere I look preventing me from tiring of his voice. In the good times or bad.

by **Scouser** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:02 pm

"Joy Division had a totally different kind of singer, bassist, guitarist and music than U2, which is probably why before reading this thread I've never heard anyone compare the two."

Errrrrrr...hello?

Have you heard U2's first two albums (Boy and October)? They both sound very Joy Division-esque...

by **withahip** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:44 pm

Another tangent

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/n ... y-division

by **Crystal Days** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:27 pm

I realise I'm probably on my own here, but I think Joy Division were shit, and I mean REALLY shit.

Ian Curtis was an awful singer, and is now only famous because he killed himself.

by **withahip** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:25 pm

Crystal Days wrote:I realise I'm probably on my own here, but I think Joy Division were shit, and I mean REALLY shit.

Ian Curtis was an awful singer, and is now only famous because he killed himself.

A friend who LOVES New Order feels the same. I felt the same the first year or so I knew about them. I changed my mind over time.

I have come to accept so much of what makes them great to me is due to the producer.

by **withahip** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:53 pm

Sad news of a slightly different sort coming out of the Joy Division fold: The BBC reports that the gravestone marking the grave of Ian Curtis, the late frontman for the legendary mope-rockers, has been stolen.

According to the BBC, at some point between Tuesday afternoon and Wednesday morning, thieves removed the stone from its perch at the Macclesfield Cemetery in Curtis' hometown of Macclesfield, England. Authorities currently have no leads as to the whereabouts of the stone, which bears the inscriptions "Ian Curtis 18 - 5 - 80" and "Love Will Tear Us Apart".

In other Ian Curtis grave-robbing news, a limited edition Unknown Pleasures-themed Zune was recently released.

by **zabird** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:51 pm

they stole his gravestone again?

Mr. Sparkle, Simon Reynolds' book on postpunk, "Rip It Up and Start Again," is quite illuminating. This chapter in particular: Glory Boys: Liverpool, New Psychedelia and the Big Music."

there's a great quote in it from Tony Wilson about U2 being ready to assume Joy Division's mantle:

"Two months after Ian died, U2 were brought around to my office at Granada TV by this plugger looking to break them in, and I remember Bono sitting on my desk and saying how incredibly sorry he was about Ian's death, how it had really hurt him ... how Ian was the number-one singer of his generation and he, Bono, knew he was always only ever going to be number two, and he said something else, something like, 'now he's gone, I promise you I'll do it for him.' Not quite that silly, but along those lines."

by **withahip** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:08 pm

Rip It Up is such a good book

by **black francis** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:52 pm

I had an old documentary on JD where Bono told pretty much the same story as Tony Wilson. If nothing else Bono has great taste in music.

by **zabird** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:12 pm

withahip wrote:Rip It Up is such a good book

An excellent read. I'm almost finished re-reading it.

Simon Reynold's got a site full of footnotes for the book:
http://ripitupandstartagainbysimonreynolds.blogspot.com/

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