Porcupine symbol, John Webster....or John Hunnynge?

[alice]

Portrait of John Hunnynge (1557-1586) in the V&A, London. " A young sea captain. The porcupine quills in his cap suggest he may have served uner Sir Philip Sidney (1554-1586) whose family symbol was the porcupine. Captain Hunnynge and Sir Philip Sidney both died in 1586 fighting against the Spanish in what is now the Netherlands."

[Sick4Tunz]

And I'm guessing none of us can remember the stupid reasons they died for. By golly, I doubt they knew why back then. Think of all the lives that could have been spared if Philip and Elizabeth had regular sexual relations.

[alice]

And I'm guessing none of us can remember the stupid reasons they died for. By golly, I doubt they knew why back then. Think of all the lives that could have been spared if Philip and Elizabeth had regular sexual relations.

With each other? Or at all?

Even monarchs that history deems ok did awful things, like Charles II refusing seamen their pay so they and their families starved and froze, whilst spending huge amounts of money on trinkets for his mistresses.